February 5, 2022 at 5:19 pm #7052Dave LoveysParticipant
The gap between the wing side wall doesn’t look too excessive to me, but I would need to see it directly from 90 degrees to the wheel to make a judgement. Possibly fitting an inner mud guard just behind the wheel as per my P1 would make it look better.
February 5, 2022 at 5:09 pm #7051Dave LoveysParticipant
Ben, I wonder if Allards changed the design during the P1 manufacturing run. The ex Peter Love, Tim Baker car is one of the first P1 made. Mine also has a ledge similar to the earlier car. Mine is also quite an early P1. 1950 registered. Maybe later P1 cars were altered and ended up like yours. If the wing fits well and seems firmly fixed on your car when bolted up I would go with the flow and use what you have got. Darell’s ex P1 was no trouble and looked good. From your photo your wing looked to fit well with good symmetrical wheel clearance. If the other side works as well you are home and dry.
February 5, 2022 at 7:21 pm #7053Ben StevensKeymaster
The other side fits the wing hoop perfectly and in terms if sideways fit is also good. The problem is that the wheel arch is in a slightly different place for some weird reason.
The first pic is the offside wing (picture has been reversed) and the 2nd pic is the nearside wing. The hoops are both correct and the front edge of both wings are equal distance from the bulkhead.
You can also see the front face of one wing is almost vertical and the rear bottom edge horizontal, but the other is totally different and well, just wrong!
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February 5, 2022 at 11:10 am #7043Ben StevensKeymaster
Firstly, I was hoping someone can confirm whether there were two different types of P1 front wing?
I have seen what appear to be some P1s with an outer front wing which is bolted directly to a wing hoop, with a larger / longer rear bracket and with a side panel running directly upwards from the hoop. On others the wing hoop is further inwards with the rear end meeting the bulkhead rather than passing alongside it, and with the side panel intersecting the top of the wing itself.
See the pictures below for my analysis…
On Darell’s / Pelham Riley’s car you can see the longer rear bracket, and the fact that the hoop seems to be vertically below the edge of the bulkhead.
This is the P1 for sale in Southend (I think) that Peter Love used to own.
This is Dave Lovey’s P1 showing where the rear of the wing is cut out to intersect the bulkhead. There is no long wing hoop bracket like on Darell’s pale blue one. I wonder whether the hole in the corner of the wing is where it was originally bolted to a longer wing hoop?
Dave’s car again looking upwards.
Not sure whose car this is, but the wing looks like it might be mounted further inwards so there’s less gap between the tyre sidewall and the edge of the wing?
This is my car showing the large gap between the tyre and the edge of the wing. My wing hoops run alongside the bulkhead. They are too long to be any further inwards.
So help…. can anyone shed any light on this? Have I got it completely wrong somehow?
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